tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-310425542024-03-12T20:06:49.981-05:00ANCESTOR HUNTINGThe never ending, incredibly addictive, search for information about our ancestors, their family and friends, neighbors and total strangers, commonly known as genealogy.GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-919870314911810482021-04-24T08:00:00.001-05:002021-04-24T08:01:33.112-05:00The Robert Clark Letter - Part 1<div style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin-bottom: 1.5em; text-align: justify;">
<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Robert Clark (previously discussed) wrote a long letter describing his genealogy in 1927. He was 83 at the time. It was difficult to read. The writing grew progressively worse and it was written with pen and ink which tends to be messy. Many spellings are known to be wrong. Others could be spelled incorrectly and I would not be aware of it. Keep in mind this was written in 1927. Modern research has made a significant number of corrections to the Clark and Isgrig information. I am not familiar with his maternal line. </em></div>
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<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">The letter covers various lines and will be presented in several parts along with auxiliary information such as William Isgrig’s transportation record. </em></div>
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Information for a sketch of family records must necessarily be obtained by conversing with or corresponding with other persons, or from wills or other writings when they are made matters of record, and sometimes from county histories or from one’s own personal knowledge of dates and events and from many other sources.</div>
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The information received from one source will often conflict with that received from some other source, so that there may be some errors especially among the earlier generations. Even obituary notices are not always absolutely correct.</div>
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County histories are not always a very reliable source of information. A great deal of that which they contain is taken from statements of persons who gave the information from their best recollections and which is not always correct. I personally know of some errors in the Sangamon and Logan Co. Ill. histories, and also in the Miami 0. history and I have no reason to believe that these are exceptions.</div>
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Wills, when they are recorded, are more reliable as they usually give the names and dates of most, if not all, of the members of the family and often the names of some of the descendants and ancestors as well.</div>
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Family records which give only the names of the immediate family are also reliable.</div>
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Jonathan Winans, the father of Sarah (Winans) Scudder, in his family record, which is still extant, gives the birth dates of all the members of his family. These dates are no doubt correct. I have copies of a number of wills which were made by persons who lived in N.J. by the name of David Clark but I am not sure that any one of them is the will of the David Clark who married Mrs. Sarah (Winans) Scudder. Their son, David Clark2 made his will in Sangamon County, Illinois.<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />The father of David Clark1 may have been a soldier in the American Revolution but that is very doubtful for if he was living at that time, he was quite aged.</div>
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Jonathan Winans, the father of Sarah (Winans) Scudder, died in 1774 just before the American Revolution and none of his descendants in the Clark line, except those of David Clark2 have Winans ancestors who were Revolutionary soldiers although some of them have in other lines.</div>
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The second wife of David Clark2 was a daughter of Samuel Winans, who was a son of Jonathan Winans, and a brother of Sarah (Winans) Scudder, the wife of David Clark.1</div>
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Samuel Winans was a Revolutionary soldier. There were others by the name of Winans who were soldiers in the Revolution.</div>
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In an early day there were at least two separate families in N.J. by the name of Clark that were not related.</div>
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We are probably the descendants of Richard Clark who came from England to the New Haven colony and went from there to Long Island and then to Elizabeth, N.J. with his wife, Elizabeth, and a daughter, Elizabeth, and three sons about 1678. Two sons were born in N.J. <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">(This has been disproven. David Clark who married Sarah Winans – not to be confused with their son David Clark who also married a Sarah Winans – is the first proven Clark in this line.)</em></div>
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Mr. J. C. Cox, of Miami Co. Ohio, who was a very enthusiastic searcher of family records once gave this as a guess which may or may not be correct.</div>
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Richard1, Samuel2, Jonathan3, David4 who married Mrs. Sarah (Winans) Scudder, whose first husband was Jacob Scudder by whom she had one son, Matthias.</div>
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After the death of Jacob Scudder, she married David Clark and they had a family of five sons and four daughters in N.J.</div>
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If Mr. Cox’s guess is correct, it would place this David Clark as of the 4th generation of his Clark line in America.</div>
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His wife, Sarah, was the 4th in the Winans line.</div>
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My father, David Ward Clark, in his family record has the following as showing who were the ancestors of his mother, Ann Isgrig, in America.</div>
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William Isgrig was born in England April 13, 1721. His third wife was Hannah Wolsey who was born April 13, 1716. <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">(William Isgrig was transported to America in 1740. He married Hannah Clixbay and they had at least five children.)</em></div>
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Daniel Isgrig, born December 26, 1756, was their only child. Daniel married Margaret Cole, born June 14, 1751. Daniel and Margaret had a family of three boys and three girls.</div>
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Daniel and Margaret came to America and settled in Maryland, where their children were born. Their children were:<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />1 – William, who married Elizabeth Rutter<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />2 – Daniel ” ” Mary Currant<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />3 – Michael ” ” Margaret Currant<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />4 – Hannah ” ” William Pattison<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />5 – Margaret ” ” Peter Stephens<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />6 – Ann ” ” John W. Clark</div>
<div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-74168480264315783082020-08-08T08:05:00.006-05:002020-08-08T08:05:56.128-05:00History of Genealogy<p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><span style="background-color: white;">“How far back does genealogy go?” a beginner might ask. And at first thought, Biblical references might come to mind as evidenced by all the chapters of begats. Family descent was important to the ancient Hebrews, in part because Hebrew males had to prove descent from Aaron, the brother of Moses, in order to hold the Levitical priesthood. The first eight chapters of the book of I Chronicles give genealogies from Adam down through Abraham and other</span><span style="background-color: white;"> </span><em style="background-color: white;">Old Testament</em><span style="background-color: white;"> </span><span style="background-color: white;">patriarchs. I Chronicles 9:1 reads, “so all Israel were reckoned by genealogies…”</span></span></p><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The ancient Greeks employed genealogy as much as their neighbors, but their goal was to prove descent from a god or goddess. This was sought in order to achieve social status. Genealogy had a recognized place in Greek history from the 5th century, but was very unscientific by modern standards, consisting largely of material found in epic poetry. The two great Homeric poems, the <em>Iliad</em> and the <em>Odyssey</em>, were the major epics of Greek antiquity. While the poet may have written about fictional characters, archaeological discoveries of the last 125 years have shown that many of the events Homer described were not fictional.<br /><br />The ancient Assyrians also kept records, using a form of writing called cuneiform to inscribe clay tablets. Some 20,000 such tablets were unearthed in the palace library during archaeological excavations in the 1840s.<br /><br />The ancient Egyptians kept records of their pharaohs and dynasties. The term <em>dynasty</em> is defined by Webster as “a succession of rulers, members of the same family.” The well-known King Tutankamen was a ruler in the 18th dynasty.<br /><br /></span></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The ancient Chinese had a succession of dynasties, with the names of the emperors and other rulers all carefully documented. The first was the Qin Dynasty, from 221-206 BC, and the modern name of China comes from that ruler’s name, Ch’in. The last Chinese dynasty was the Qing Dynasty, from 1644 to 1911.<br /><br />Chinese religions promoted active ancestor worship, so descendants had a need to know the identity of their ancestors from this religious perspective. Confucius taught responsibility for ancestors, and ceremonies to honor these ancestors date back to his time (551? - 479? BC). Some Chinese people today have genealogies that date back a thousand years.<br /> <br />The Maori people can repeat their pedigree back to about 1200 AD, when their ancestors first arrived in New Zealand, coming in canoes from other Pacific Islands. Not having much room for baggage, they carried their history in their memories as long oral traditions.<br /><br />The Inca people managed to have a genealogical record despite having no written language. Living along the western coast of South America in the 5th century AD, the nine million Incas believed that their emperor was a descendant of the Sun God. And the emperor chose his administrators from among his sons and other close relatives. Only pure-blooded Incas held the most important governmental, religious and military offices.</span></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><div><span style="font-family: verdana;">Among North American Indians, totem poles were sometimes a genealogical record. For centuries, totem poles were landmarks in the villages of Northwest Coast peoples. These tall poles, carved from wood, traced the histories of families and clans much like a family crest or family tree. Each figure on the pole was a symbol of a family characteristic, an event, or a <em>totem</em>, a power of nature to which the family had a special relationship. Totems often took the form of an animal or spirit.<br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana;">The Haida people, a group living on the Queen Charlotte Islands off the coast of British Columbia, Canada, carved a mortuary pole when a high-ranking member of the community died. The Haida carved and erected a mortuary pole to commemorate that person’s life and the scenes and faces on the pole depict the deceased’s life.<br /><br />During the Middle Ages in Europe, questions of kinship and descent became of great political importance. This was especially so when the hereditary transmission of fiefdoms of land had become established. Many privileges of the nobility and gentry depended on birth. A candidate for knighthood had to furnish proof of ancient nobility. <br /></span></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">In more modern times, many can with fairly reliable documentation, trace their British origins back into the 16th century. Thanks to a 1538 edict from King Henry VIII, it was required that ministers keep records of christenings, baptisms, marriages and burials. Certainly, the law was not fully complied with for about 50 years, but between the late 1500s and 1837 (when civil vital registration became law), these church parish registers are the main records one will find on one’s British ancestors.<br /><br />In roughly the same time period, the lands that would become Germany began to keep similar records. The Scandinavian countries followed suit. This record-keeping was first inspired, or required, by the Catholic Church and then, as countries broke with Catholic tradition, they kept the part of the tradition pertaining to the keeping of sacramental records and incorporated it into their new churches. In most countries, church parish registers pre-date any civil record keeping.<br /><br />Britain has some very, very old records that could be considered a sort of genealogy record: the Doomsday Book (1086), the Magna Carta (1215), Exchequer Rolls (from 1152), Chancery Rolls (from 1199), Patent Rolls, Manor Court Rolls, and Fleet of Fines records (from 1190-1833). The College of Arms, established by royal charter in 1484, kept the heraldic records.<br /><br />In America’s colonial days, most settlers were British immigrants who wanted to preserve such customs as the keeping of records. During the earliest years, the churches kept the vital records; later the towns took up the practice.<br /><br />The first known civil law requiring vital records to be kept in the Colonies was passed in 1632 by the General Assembly of Virginia. This law required that ministers or wardens of each parish appear in court annually on 1 June and present the records to the clerk of christenings, marriages and burials for the preceding year. In 1639, the Massachusetts Bay Colony enacted similar legislation.<br /><br />After the Revolution, new interest was added to genealogy because people were anxious to establish connection with the heroes of the Revolution, or the Signers of the Declaration of Independence, or the members of the Boston Tea Party, etc. The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) was organized in Washington, DC, in 1890, to preserve the memory of those who fought for American independence and to foster patriotism. Eligibility for membership is based on direct descent from a man or woman who actively participated in the American Revolution (1775-1783). Dozens of other hereditary societies have come into being since, following the DAR’s lead.<br /><br />Did you know that the first genealogical society in the world was founded in 1845 in America? The New England Historic Genealogical Society was chartered in that year, two full years before a similar society was begun in England. </span></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></div><div dir="ltr" style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><i>(This article was first posted in 2005 on one of my early blog sites.)</i></span></div><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-74386991039301147982020-08-07T08:57:00.001-05:002020-08-08T08:18:28.678-05:00Solving the Mysteries...Photos<p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Genealogy is a mystery. Everyone loves a good mystery, right? In genealogy we want to solve all the mysteries and end up with all the facts. But, until we do, we need to search out the facts like any good detective.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The tools of a genealogy detective are very much like those of a good reporter. We want to know all the facts. Who. What. When. Where. We want to know the source of all the facts so we can evaluate their validity. "Anonymous sources" and those "highly placed sources" aren't good in genealogy. A good genealogist deals in documented facts.</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTIuc02Dx_-6j14dltS4KGD4VJB1N7EFWSBt-LOsEnD5MO5MN_YvHTTsWOidYcGlU_KjPpMJ_vaUg5Pl4OvGscyE1G11QjhjR6a2bpXBFU1hkZa1YiTXV_4vylPRpXlRSsiA-7dQ/s426/Harding+Lida.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="426" data-original-width="262" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTIuc02Dx_-6j14dltS4KGD4VJB1N7EFWSBt-LOsEnD5MO5MN_YvHTTsWOidYcGlU_KjPpMJ_vaUg5Pl4OvGscyE1G11QjhjR6a2bpXBFU1hkZa1YiTXV_4vylPRpXlRSsiA-7dQ/s0/Harding+Lida.jpg" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Let's take the picture. Who is it? It is Eliza Sciota Harding, known to her friends as Lida. Hopefully it says that on the back of the picture but most likely it doesn't. The picture's owner knew who it was and likely didn't see the need to write it on the picture. The owner never dreamed we'd be studying it 130 years later. We know it is Lida because we compared it to other pictures of Lida and recognized her, not to mention there were living folks who had known her when we first found the picture. In this case it was easy.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">What is it? It's a picture. Did you think this was a trick question? That was the easy one.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">When was it taken? This is harder. It can important in identifying who is in the picture. There are books that tell you what to look for in terms of backgrounds, poses, clothing, etc. If you have a lot of pictures to identify invest in a good book or two. </span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Lida isn't terribly old in this picture. How old do you think she is? Can you see that "I don't want to do this" look on her face? That, her childish body and her shorter skirt are indications of her age. Let's say she is 10. Since we know she was born in June 1869, if she is in fact 10 in the picture, this could have been taken between June 1879 and June 1880. It was probably taken in the winter because farmers didn't take time out for such things in the summer when every hour was devoted to work. We know her father was a farmer. Also, her clothing looks heavy for summer.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Where was it taken? Perhaps the name and town of the photographer is on the picture or the picture enclosure. In this case she was born, lived and died in the same county so we can be pretty sure it was taken in Logan County, Illinois.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Why isn't a critical question in this case. We have other pictures which would indicate all of the family members, Lida, her sister, her three brothers and her mother had their pictures taken at what appears to be the same time, same studio, same backgrounds. What about her father? If his picture was taken it did not survive. If there was a family portrait made it did not survive. The father, Benjamin Harding, appears in later family portraits so he wasn't against having his picture made. Probably his picture was taken when this one was but for some reason did not survive.</span></p><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-13232264767273645592020-07-30T10:54:00.000-05:002020-07-30T10:54:03.211-05:00The Transportation William Isgrigg<div style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin-bottom: 1.5em; text-align: justify;">
<i>This is a transcription of the record of the trial and transportation of William Isgrigg. </i></div>
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April 1740, trial of William Isgrigg t17400416-2; 192+ (Harvard University, “Old Bailey Proceedings Online.”)</div>
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William Isgrigg, of St John Zachary, was indicted for stealing 9 Pair of Mens Silver Shoe-buckles, value 5 l. 4 Pair of Silver Knee-buckles, val. 20s. 3 Pair of Womens Silver Shoe-buckles, val. 24 s. 3 plain Gold Rings, val. 36 s. 2 enamell’d gold Rings, val. 12 s. a gold Ring set with 5 Stones, val. 3 s. a Silver Snuff-box with the inside gilded, val. 8 s. 7 Silver Stock-buckles, val. 21 s. and 3 Pair of Silver Stock-clasps, val. 18 s. the Goods of William Gould , in his Dwelling-house , Feb. 24.</div>
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William Gould . The Prisoner was my Apprentice, and had served me above half his Time. His Father lay very ill, and his Mother begg’d of me to let him go and see him, for he was (she said) at the Point of Death. I gave him Leave to go, and after he had been absent a Fortnight, I sent for him to come home: but he sent me Word, that the Physicians had given his Father over, and, as it was not expected he would live over that Night, he desired I would suffer him to stay one Night longer. I consented; and his Mother sent him Home next Morning, (as I was informed) but he did not come near me till Sunday the 24th of February last, (which was a Fortnight after he had been sent Home) and then my Servant-Maid informed me, she let the Prisoner into the House, a quarter after 8 in the Morning, before I was up. The next Morning (Monday) I got up between 7 and 8, and casting an Eye upon my Shew-Glass, I thought the Goods look’d thin, and that several Things were wanting. Upon this I examined my other Boy, and was satisfied that he knew nothing of them; and the Prisoner being absent again, I suspected him, and upon searching after him, I took him in Hanging-sword-Alley in Fleet-street, on the Wednesday Night following. He was carried to the Watch house, and there we found the gold Ring with 5 false Stones upon him, and nothing else. That Night he was sent to Bridewell, and the next Day we carried him before Sir Robert Godseball , where he confess’d he had pawn’d several Pair of my Buckles, Stock-buckles, and Stock-clasps, which are now in Court. This is the Stone-Ring which was found upon him at the Watch-house, and it is mine. I am pretty sure it was in the Shew-Glass, when we took it from the Window, into the Shop, on Saturday Night, and I miss’d it, with the rest of the Goods, on Monday the 25th of February, in the Morning.</div>
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John Hartwell, Constable. I took this Ring out of the Prisoner’s Pocket, at the Watch-house.</div>
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John Coombes. These Buckles were sealed up before Sir William Billers. They are the same which the Prosecutor swears were taken from him, and I found them at the Pawnbrokers. I have Warrants in my Pocket against two of them; their Names are William Wilson, James Crocket, James Jarvis , and Thomas Oldfield.</div>
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The Constable produced several Pair of Silver Buckles, which he had found at the Pawnbrokers.</div>
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Mr. Gould. These are my Goods; and I saw them on Saturday in my Shew-glass, which was taken into the Shop at Night. The Shop is part of my Dwelling-house, and I saw the Glass in the Shop on Sunday, but did not examine it till Monday Morning. The Prisoner is between 19 and 20 Years of Age. – I have another Apprentice, one John Priest , who has served about a Year of his Time; and my Servants have the Liberty of going into the Shop.</div>
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Prisoner. I have no Questions to ask, – I’ll give the Court no farther Trouble, – I acknowledge my Guilt, and hope you’ll consider me.</div>
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Gawen Nash. I went with Mr. Gould to search after the Prisoner, and the next Morning after we found him; I did, I believe, extort a Confession out of him, by promising him Compassion, if he would tell where the Things were.</div>
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Prisoner. My Master did promise me Mercy.</div>
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Mr. Nash. I told him it was his best Way to make Retaliation to his Master, by discovering where the Goods were: and he confessed more Goods than we have here in Court, and told us where they were to be found. He informed us, that Thomas Oldfield , who keeps a publick House in Tavistock-street, had many of the Goods; we went to him, and he was with us before the Justice, who bound him over to appear here with the Goods, and give Evidence, but he is not come.</div>
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The Court ordered him to be sent for; be accordingly appeared, and produced the Goods he had in his Possession, which were restored to Mr Gould, by Order of Court; after which he, with the other Pawnbrokers were very severely reprimanded for their Behaviour by the Court.</div>
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* The Sale of Goods, wrongfully taken, to any Broker or Pawn-taker in London, Westminster, Southwark, or within two Miles of London shall not alter the Property. – If a Broker, having received such Goods, shall not, upon Request of the Owner, discover them, how, and when, he came by them, and to whom they are conveyed, be shall forfeit the double Value thereof to the said Owner, to be recovered by Action of Debt. Stat. 1 Jac. I. c. 21. 1 6, 7.</div>
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The Jury found the Prisoner Guilty 4 s. 10 d. He was transported for seven years.</div>
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<span style="color: #424242; font-family: Source Sans Pro, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18px;"><i>On May 31, 1740, he was removed from Newgate Prison and taken to the ship Essex, Ambrose Cooker, Commander. The Essex went to Maryland.</i></span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #424242; font-family: Source Sans Pro, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 18px;"><i>After completing his seven year sentence, he purchased land in Baltimore County, Maryland, married and had at least five children before his death about 1788.</i></span></span></div>
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In working with some early histories I noted some interesting differences. I assume much of it has to do with the politics of the time, who was writing the book, etc. Certainly, it is evident in many “histories” who the “preferred” families were. And it was not unusual to pay for an “appropriate” mention.</div>
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For whatever reason, the “facts” vary from history to history. This example relates to one of the early settlers. I found equally interesting “facts” in the others.</div>
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In one Logan County (Illinois) history we learn that John and Hannah Downing came to Salt Creek with their sons Robert and James. Actually, it says they are “said to have settled on Salt Creek.” I’m not sure what that means since there are clear records of residence and land purchase.</div>
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The 1886 history says the Downings came “between 1824 and 1827 or ’28.” Land purchases came after settlement. Perhaps these editors went on land purchase dates although I find it doubtful they had access to the records then.</div>
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A 1936 history (of Mt. Pulaski) written by Judge Lawrence Stringer (a historian of some note, although not always accurate – and definitely a politician) says: “The first permanent settlement in the Salt creek country, in the vicinity of present Mount Pulaski. was made by Robert Downing. With him, came his wife, Jane Morrow Downing, and his parents, John and Hannah Downing. Also about the same time, came his brother and wife, James and Ruth Downing.” Note that Robert brought his family rather than he came with his parents. I do not know if James and Ruth came with the rest of the family or just “about the same time” but James and Robert Downing were brothers and Jane and Ruth Morrow were sisters. I suspect they all came together.</div>
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The Downings are believed to have arrived in 1822 from Ohio but there is no black and white proof of the date. In the 1820 census, Robert was recorded in Monroe Township, Madison County, Ohio. Robert Downing voted on August 2, 1824, in Union Precinct, Sangamon County. (Logan was part of Sangamon County at that time.)</div>
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In 1822 John was 60 and Robert was 28. John and Robert both bought land, much of which remains in the hands of descendants.</div>
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The 1936 history says Robert Downing “was a Black Hawk war veteran.” He was a War of 1812 veteran, having served from Ohio along with his brothers John and Josiah. In addition to the military records, he was receiving a pension for his service at his death. Note is made in his probate file that the government wouldn’t cash his final check. I have not seen evidence he served in the Black Hawk War and he is not listed as a veteran in the state’s records.</div>
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Such histories have to be considered clues and not factual evidence.</div>
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On June 13, 1888, in a farmhouse three miles northwest of Mt. Pulaski in Logan County, Illinois, Eliza Harding Downing gave birth to her second son, Ellis. The couple already had an 18 month old.</div>
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When Ellis was two he got another brother. This picture was taken when he was about 4, just before his maternal grandparents, their other daughter and three sons, none of whom were married at the time, moved to Iowa. His father’s father had served with his mother’s father during the Civil War. His paternal grandfather died in Arkansas as the war ended of “typhoid pneumonia.”</div>
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Apparently, there was good rail service between north central Iowa because there seems to have been visiting between Eliza in Illinois and her family in Iowa.</div>
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The fourth and final son came when Ellis was 8. The family was complete. Or they gave up hope of ever having a girl.</div>
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The family had been living on land which William had inherited from his grandfather as his father’s heir when he came of age. Now he was able to purchase more of it. With the help of his sons, he cleared the land. They wore high leather boots to protect them from snakes. They built a new house half mile east. Things were going well.</div>
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Then, in the fall of 1903 tragedy, struck. The oldest son, Clarence, caught typhoid. Then Ellis got it. William nursed Ellis while Eliza cared for the younger boys and the recovering Clarence. Then William got typhoid. Both of the boys survived but William did not. Just before Christmas, he died leaving a widow and four minor sons.</div>
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It was not the plan for Ellis to be a farmer. He went to business school. But, in the end, Ellis was the one who stayed on the land and farmed while his brothers went their own ways. Each of his brothers and their wives had one son. Ellis and his wife had three sons. And then, after 11 years, they had a daughter – and then another one.</div>
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He died two weeks after his 90th birthday.</div>
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I had a discussion with a relative – our mothers were cousins – about some family members. I knew they married but lost track after that. She remarked it was because I moved away.</div>
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I have heard a version of that before. But you know, if your ancestors hadn’t “moved away” you’d still be living in a cave in eastern Europe or wherever they currently think we came from.</div>
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Our mutual ancestors come from people who “moved away” for several generations. It’s my “last in” line with the shortest “moved away” history. The other lines had been moving away from Europe, then the east coast and so on, some for 200 years, when the Ryans arrived.</div>
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Michael Ryan married Catherine Donovan in Lismore Parish, Waterford, Ireland, November 26, 1825. They decided to move away. They boarded the Russell Baldwin in Liverpool and arrived in New York on July 28, 1834. They brought Bridget, Daniel Edward and John with them.</div>
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For reasons I can’t begin to imagine, they moved away from New York to southeast Wisconsin. They are not to be confused with another Ryan family who also went to that part of Wisconsin.</div>
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In 1844 they were living in Merton Township, Waukesha County, according to a later court transcript. They were there for the 1850 census. They managed to appear in court records so they are fairly easy to track.</div>
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In 1855 Daniel Edward married Catherine J. McKenney. Her parents had moved away from Ireland to New York where she was born and then moved away to Wisconsin.</div>
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In 1865 the Daniel and Catherine and their sons moved away from Wisconsin. Their sixth son, Thomas, was born in Wisconsin in 1864. The seventh son Edward Daniel, was born St. Joseph, Andrew County, Missouri, in 1865. Eventually, Daniel and Catherine had 12 sons, including three sets of twins. Eight survived.</div>
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Daniel and Catherine were in Missouri for about seven years, then moved away again, finally settling in Harper County, Kansas. There Edward Daniel Ryan met Lillie Margaret Wood. Her family had been trying to move away from Logan County, Illinois, to various places for years. Lillie was born in Falls County, Texas, on one attempt. Edward and Lillie married November 16, 1886, in Harper County. Shortly thereafter, her family moved away for the last time, back to where they started.</div>
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Edward and Lillie had a daughter and the trouble began. It was settled when Edward and Lillie got into a covered wagon with their daughter and moved away to Logan County, Illinois, where they stayed for the rest of their lives. They had nine more children, some of whom eventually moved away.</div>
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For 81 years French’s Chapel served the residents of a rural area in Logan County. It was located on the south side of Salt Creek and just west of the Primm Road, a little over seven miles northwest of Mt. Pulaski, five miles east of Broadwell, seven miles south of Lincoln.</div>
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The church was built in 1870 on land originally owned by Asa and Hannah Clark French. Hannah was the daughter of John Winans Clark. Her uncle David Clark and her brother-in-law Richard Clark were Methodist Ministers and her cousin Dr. John Clark had been instrumental in the founding of the Mt. Pulaski Methodist Church.</div>
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Asa and Hannah had been holding services for the Methodist Episcopal Church in their home since about 1840. Caroline Alexander, the wife of Asa and Hannah’s son Ezekiel, had been converted at a meeting and was a devout member for the rest of her life. At her death, they found a sugar bowl full of coins she had been saving to build a church.</div>
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The surviving French sons, Daniel, John and Ezekiel, were among the leaders in building the chapel. Ezekiel kept a record of expenses — the largest sum paid was $800 to G. Downing, presumed to be the contractor on the project. George Downing was a brother of Hannah Downing who married Daniel French, another son of Asa and Hannah. The total cost of the church was $1,650. The church was dedicated on September 11, 1870.</div>
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The final service was held June 3, 1951. For many years a foundation remained but that is now gone. The French family no longer owns the land. No trace remains of French’s Chapel.</div>
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The Lake Fork Predestinarian Baptists, formed in 1827, the first known organized religious group in Logan County, began to splinter and by 1860 members were leaving although a new church was built in 1868 and services were held until 1894.</div>
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The Restoration Movement also known as the Disciples of Christ and generally know as the Christian Church took hold in the county and appears to have been the impetus for the movement away from the Baptists.</div>
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There was a Buckles Church on land donated by John Buckles. As people moved toward Lake Fork a church was formed there and the building which housed the Buckles congregation was moved Carlyle Cemetery. It no longer stands.</div>
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The Mt. Pulaski Christian was formed following a series of revival like meetings. It remains and is active.</div>
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The Copeland Christian Church was formed in 1866 at the southern end of Mt. Pulaski Township. The Copeland Church building still stands although it is not a church. The Buckles and Copeland families were members of the Baptist church before forming those Christian Churches. The Copelands had come from Ohio with the church group.</div>
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Christian Churches were also formed at Elkhart and Latham. A short (and incomplete) history of the Restoration Movement in Logan County can be found <a href="http://logan.illinoisgenweb.org/restoration.htm" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #78909c;">here</a>.</div>
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I know about the prior four Revolutionary War Veterans buried in Logan County, Illinois, because I descend from all of them.</div>
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There is at least one more and possibly three more.</div>
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One is <strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Henry Kimes</strong>. According to an early work on Illinois veteran burials, he was born in Chester County, Pennsylvania, and served in the Chester County Militia in 1780, 1781 and 1782. It says he went to Logan County, died and “is buried near Lincoln.” Actually, he is buried in Atlanta Cemetery. I have seen a photo of his stone. I have never run across a descendant. The source given for the information is Pennsylvania Archives.</div>
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The same book lists a <strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">Peter Borders</strong> who “served in the South Carolina troops.” It says he was from Newberry County and went to Sangamon County but died in Logan County. I have never seen evidence that he is buried in Logan County nor have I run across a descendant. The source given for the information is “Pension Records.”</div>
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Finally, there is <strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">William Patterson</strong>. There have been various references to his Revolutionary War service. I have talked to descendants looking into a DAR membership based upon his service. I have not seen their research. He was born in Virginia in 1757. His first child was born in Botetourt County. We know he was in Ohio by 1809 when his son Thomas married there. From Madison County, Ohio, he came to Logan County with his son Moses before 1840. He died March 16, 1840.</div>
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Patterson was born in Virginia in 1757. His first child was born in Botetourt County. We know he was in Ohio by 1809 when his son Thomas married there. From Madison County, Ohio, he came to Logan County with his son Moses before 1840. He died March 16, 1840.*</div>
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I know more about him because one of his sons married Elizabeth Morrow, a daughter of James Morrow and Hannah Downing. A daughter married a William Frakes, brother of Hannah Frakes who married John Downing. These people are from the Downing line which is buried at Bowers-Templeman. For some reason, William Patterson was buried in Downing Cemetery, the final resting place of the other Downing line.</div>
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John Downing was born about 1762 in Maryland. Thanks to DNA testing we know he saw service in the Washington County, Maryland, militia. He was a Private, 5th Class, in Capt. Basil Williams Company, 2nd Battalion, in 1778. For many years he was believed to have served in Pennsylvania. </div>
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As far as we know, he did not apply for a pension which is part of the reason his service was elusive. As a result, we don’t have a written version of his travels across the country. We know in 1783 he was living in Marsh Hundred, Washington County, Maryland. By 1786 he was living in Hopewell Township, Bedford County, Pennsylvania. In 1790 he is on the first federal census there. By 1808 he was in Jefferson Township, Monroe County, Ohio. A history of Madison County says he was “a native of Virginia.” It also tells us that in 1822 he moved to Logan County. In another error, it places Logan County in Ohio.</div>
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On August 6, 1831, he purchased 80 acres of federal land in Chester Township.</div>
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John Downing and his wife Hannah Frakes had eight children, seven of whom survived childhood. Three served in the War of 1812 while they lived in Ohio. One died in battle and one died not long after returning home. The third died in Logan County at the age of 93. Another son continued on to Iowa and another eventually went to Kansas. A daughter married and left for Oregon but got delayed in Kansas. Another daughter died in Logan County before her father.</div>
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Downing died on December 18, 1838, in Salt Creek Precinct, Sangamon now Logan County, Illinois. Less than two months later Logan County was officially formed. There were various early courthouses but the final one is in Lincoln. Almost immediately after all files were transferred to the new courthouse it burnt. There is no probate file nor any other records.</div>
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Unlike James Turley and Humphrey Scroggin, we know exactly where he is buried – in Bowers Templeman Cemetery.</div>
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Abraham Lucas was born in 1761 in Morris County, New Jersey. Illinois Revolutionary War Veteran Burials says 1756. Unlike Turley and Scroggin, his pension application defies attempts to transcribe. However, we know his service from other records.</div>
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Lucas was living along the Monongahela River on the Pennsylvania frontier. He served in Captain Brinton’s Company under General McIntosh in 1781, according to the DAR record.</div>
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He served in the Washington County, Pennsylvania, Militia three times in 1782. “This is to certify that, under the Militia Loan of 1 April 1784, a certificate of public debt, Number 1894, in the amount of £5.5.0, was issued in the name of Abraham Lucah for a tour of active duty in the Washington County Militia, which he performed as a member of Captain George Sharp’s Company during the period March 5-April 6, 1782.”</div>
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He served Lieutenant Jonathan Arned’s Company May10-June 10, earning £5.8.6, and in Ensign Zophar Ball’s Company September 15-22, earning £1.4.6.</div>
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In 1785 he married Marcy Kelsey. After the war, he moved briefly to Mason County, Kentucky, where her father died before March 9, 1812, when the will was probated, and then to Greene County, Ohio. In Greene County he was involved with the Caesar’s Creek Baptist Church which would move, almost in its entirety, to Logan County, Illinois, becoming the Lake Fork Predestinarian Baptist Church.</div>
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Lucas stopped briefly in Athens Township, Menard County, Illinois, then went to Corwin Township, Logan County, where he bought land in 1828. His daughter Pheobe and her husband Solomon Wood lived in what became Corwin Township. By 1830 he was in Salt Creek Precinct of what became Mt. Pulaski Township where he voted.</div>
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Marcy Kelsey Lucas died in August 1835. In 1836 Abraham Lucas filed his pension application. It was denied for less than six months service.</div>
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Abraham Lucas died July 22, 1841, and really was buried in Steenbergen Cemetery.</div>
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<i>Humphrey Scroggin has been discussed before. His burial place is almost certainly in Carlyle Cemetery but his DAR marker is in Steenbergen. </i></div>
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Humphrey Scroggin was born in 1763 in Culpeper, Virginia. He served in Capt. S. Tarrant’s Company of Colonel Abram Penn’s Regiment. His application for a pension was more detailed as to his service record.</div>
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“On this seventeenth day of November, Eighteen hundred and Thirty four, personally appeared before the Circuit Court, in and for the county and state aforesaid, Humphrey Scroggins, a resident of said county and state, age Sixty Eight years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832 – That he was drafted into the service, in the State troops of the State of Virginia, in the year 1781, in the early part of the month of March, and served in the following manner and under the following named officers –</div>
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“That he was drafted into the Company commanded by Capt. George Hastern, but does not recollect the names of the Lieut. and Ensign – the Company belonged to Col. Richardson’s Regiment, Lieut. Col. Halcom – Recollects no other field officers – Said Regiment was immediately marched to guilford Court House in North Carolina and joined the Army commanded by Genl. Nathaniel Greene, the day after the Battle at that place, and was placed in Lawson’s Brigade –</div>
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“That the Army then marched in pursuit of the British, Down to Deep River, at Ramsay’s Mills – This took them 7 or 8 days by forced march – at Ramsay’s Mills, Lawson’s Brigade were all discharged, with the Exception of Capt. Hastern’s Company, and the Company commanded by Capt. Shaw – Our Company was then marched alone down to the lower part of North Carolina across Cape Fear River – The Company remained at Cape Fear River 2 or 3 weeks – Then marched back by the way of Hillsborough to Henry County, Virginia and were then discharged in the Latter part of May – He received a written discharge for three months service from Capt. Hastern.</div>
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“That he was drafted again in the year 1781, in the month of July – in Capt. Hamon Crite’s Company, Lieut. John Torrence – Regiment was Commanded by Col. Halcom – Recollects no other officers – Our Company was marched to Mobbins Hill, at Woodson’s ferry, on James River, where we joined our Regiment, then the army commanded (as he thinks) by the Marquis LaFayette – The Army marched across Pomunky River, and he with four others of his company, were placed in a reconoitering party, Commanded by Col. Matthews and marched to within 8 miles of Williamsburgh and Encamped at a place called Ruff Creek Church, and there remained 4 days – Then Fell back 4 miles and staid there 3 or 4 days – We 5 were then discharge from Col. Matthews for 3 months service – in Sept. as he thinks</div>
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“In November 1781 he volunteered in Capt. Peter Hasterns Company – the Company was placed in a Battalion or Regiment Commanded by Major Fearn consisting of 300 men and marched as a guard, having in charge 500 British and 40 tories taken as prisoners at the battle of Cowpens, at Tarletons Defeat – through Spittsylvania, Halifax, across Staunton River at (Chisholm’s?) Ford – a new guard then relieved us commanded by Col. Callaway, and we marched back to Henry County where we were discharged in December or January -Received a written discharge from Capt. Hastern for two months Service –</div>
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“In February 1781 (1782?) he volunteered in the Company commanded by Capt. Samuel Torrence, Lieut. Jno. Torrence – in the Regiment Commanded by Col. Matthews – marched to Spittsylvania, then Returned & were discharged – were gone 2 weeks – Received a written discharge from Capt. Torrence for 2 weeks Service.</div>
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“That in all, his service was 8 1/2 months – that the said 4 written discharges were all burned together with his papers, in his sons house, which burned down in this County, about four years since – That when he Entered the service at the Several periods above stated, he resided in the county of Henry in the State of Virginia, and removed after the war to South Carolina, from there to Kentucky, from there to Tennessee and from that State, to Sangamon County, in the State of Illinois where he has resided for (last or just?) seven years.”</div>
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On October 15, 1784, he bought 351 in District 96 in South Carolina. Shortly thereafter he married Sarah Ann Kirby, a daughter of David Kirby and Elizabeth Tarrant, and a sister to James Turley’s wife Agnes. Were they related to Capt. S. Tarrant? I don’t know.</div>
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By 1800 the Scroggin family was in Warren County, Kentucky, according to the reconstructed census. The census was taken from the tax lists so it seems likely he owned land there.</div>
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On September 10, 1814, he bought 160 acres in Gallatin County, Illinois. By the 1830 census, he was living in Sangamon now Logan County, Illinois. From his pension application, it would seem he arrived in the area about 1827.</div>
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On March 15, 1835, Humphrey Scroggin’s pension application was denied for having less than six months service.</div>
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He died in July of 1845.</div>
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James Turley was born January 8, 1761, in Fairfax County, Virginia. We know a great deal about James Turley because he wrote about his life in detail his application for a Revolutionary War pension.</div>
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“I was born in the year 1761 at my residence in this County, I have a record of my [birth] copied from my Father’s family Bible.” It was in Virginia in 1781 that he married Agnes Kirby. Agnes was one of the daughters of David Kirby and Elizabeth Tarrant. (They will come up again.)</div>
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Turley wrote “the first time I entered service I was a resident of Fairfax County, Virginia.” In his letter for his application for a pension he said he was only 16 when he enlisted in August of 1777. He was a private in Captains Thomas Pollard’s and John Seal’s companies of Colonel Rumney’s Virginia regiment. He served at the Battle of Germantown and was discharged about December 1, 1777.</div>
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“I moved to Henry County in 1778 and resided there fourteen years.” In the spring or summer of 1781, he enlisted and served three months as a private in Captain Hill’s company of Colonel Richardson’s Virginia regiment. Immediately after completing that service he enlisted and served four weeks as a private in Captain Torrence’s company of Colonel Lyon’s Virginia regiment.</div>
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“I moved thence to South Carolina where I resided four years, thence to Montgomery County Kentucky and lived twenty years…” In 1807 he was the Sheriff of Montgomery County, Kentucky.</div>
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“…then to Union and lived five years…” I haven’t looked into this. It is likely Union County, Kentucky, on the southeast border of Illinois. Union County, Illinois, would be out of the way for his journey from Kentucky to central Illinois.</div>
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“…and thence to this County in which I have resided thirteen years…” According to his account, made in 1831, he arrived Sangamon now Logan County, Illinois, in 1818.</div>
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His chronology makes his arrival in Sangamon County to be 1821. He is recorded as being one of the first settlers in the area, probably arriving a bit earlier. His granddaughter Martha, born in 1822, was the first white child born in what became Logan County. He voted in Sangamon County on June 23, 1821, in the Militia election, and on August 2, 1824, when he was Clerk of the election.</div>
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On June 7, 1832, he was awarded a pension effective March 4, 1831, in the amount of $23.33 (and a third) per year, payable semi-annually. How they divided that one-third cent is not stated.</div>
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He died on June 4, 1836, and was buried in the Turley Graveyard, now Carlyle Cemetery. The exact location is unknown.</div>
<div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-73562659322987889392020-07-18T14:10:00.000-05:002020-07-18T14:10:19.152-05:00Robert Clark's Clark Genealogy<span style="background-color: white; color: navy; font-family: "source sans pro" , sans-serif; font-size: 18px; text-align: justify;"><i>Robert D. Clark was a descendant of John Winans Clark, one of three Clark brothers (really) who came to Illinois. The Clarks were all Methodists and many were involved in founding Methodist Churches. John’s brother David and David’s son Richard (who married John’s daughter Margaret) were ministers as were other Clarks who did not come to Illinois.</i></span><br />
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<span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: navy;"><i>Robert D. Clark was born in Laenna Township on September 30, 1844, and died in Mt. Pulaski on October 12, 1933. He attended college at Normal (now Illinois State) and taught in local schools for 16 years before turning to farming. He retired in 1895 and in April 1909, he was elected Mayor of Mt. Pulaski. He died on October 12, 1933.</i></span></div>
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<span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: navy;"><i>Please note that this was difficult to read. Clark was 83 years old when he wrote this. The writing grew progressively worse and it was written with pen and ink which tends to be messy. Many spellings are known to be wrong. Others could be spelled incorrectly and I would not be aware of it. Keep in mind this was written in 1927. Modern research has made a significant number of corrections to this information.</i></span></div>
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Information for a sketch of family records must necessarily be obtained by conversing with or corresponding with other persons, or from wills or other writings when they are made matters of record, and sometimes from county histories or from one’s own personal knowledge of dates and events and from many other sources.</div>
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The information received from one source will often conflict with that received from some other source, so that there may be some errors especially among the earlier generations. Even obituary notices are not always absolutely correct.</div>
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County histories are not always a very reliable source of information. A great deal of that which they contain is taken from statements of persons who gave the information from their best recollections and which is not always correct. I personally know of some errors in the Sangamon and Logan Co. Ill. histories, and also in the Miami 0. history and I have no reason to believe that these are exceptions.</div>
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Wills, when they are recorded, are more reliable as they usually give the names and dates of most, if not all, of the members of the family and often the names of some of the descendants and ancestors as well.</div>
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Family records which give only the names of the immediate family are also reliable.</div>
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Jonathan Winans, the father of Sarah (Winans) Scudder, in his family record, which is still extant, gives the birth dates of all the members of his family. These dates are no doubt correct. I have copies of a number of wills which were made by persons who lived in N.J. by the name of David Clark but I am not sure that any one of them is the will of the David Clark who married Mrs. Sarah (Winans) Scudder. Their son, David Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> made his will in Sangamon County, Illinois.</div>
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The father of David Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1</span> may have been a soldier in the American Revolution but that is very doubtful for if he was living at that time, he was quite aged.</div>
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Jonathan Winans, the father of Sarah (Winans) Scudder, died in 1774 just before the American Revolution and none of his descendants in the Clark line, except those of David Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> have Winans ancestors who were Revolutionary soldiers although some of them have in other lines.</div>
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The second wife of David Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> was a daughter of Samuel Winans, who was a son of Jonathan Winans, and a brother of Sarah (Winans) Scudder, the wife of David Clark.<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1</span></div>
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Samuel Winans was a Revolutionary soldier. There were others by the name of Winans who were soldiers in the Revolution.</div>
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In an early day there were at least two separate families in N.J. by the name of Clark that were not related.</div>
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We are probably the descendants of Richard Clark who came from England to the New Haven colony and went from there to Long Island and then to Elizabeth, N.J. with his wife, Elizabeth, and a daughter, Elizabeth, and three sons about 1678. Two sons were born in N.J.</div>
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Mr. J. C. Cox, of Miami Co. Ohio, who was a very enthusiastic searcher of family records once gave this as a guess which may or may not be correct.</div>
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Richard<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1</span>, Samuel<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span>, Jonathan<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">3</span>, David<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">4</span> who married Mrs. Sarah (Winans) Scudder, whose first husband was Jacob Scudder by whom she had one son, Matthias.</div>
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After the death of Jacob Scudder, she married David Clark and they had a family of five sons and four daughters in N.J.</div>
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If Mr. Cox’s guess is correct, it would place this David Clark as of the 4th generation of his Clark line in America.</div>
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His wife, Sarah, was the 4th in the Winans line.</div>
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William Isgrig was born in England April 13, 1721. His third wife was Hannah Wolsey who was born April 13, 1716.</div>
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Daniel Isgrig, born December 26, 1756, was their only child. Daniel married Margaret Cole, born June 14, 1751. Daniel and Margaret had a family of three boys and three girls.</div>
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Daniel and Margaret came to America and settled in Maryland, where their children were born. Their children were:</div>
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1 – William, who married Elizabeth Rutter</div>
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2 – Daniel ” ” Mary Currant</div>
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3 – Michael ” ” Margaret Currant</div>
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4 – Hannah ” ” William Pattison</div>
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5 – Margaret ” ” Peter Stephens</div>
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6 – Ann ” ” John W. Clark</div>
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The parents of Hannah (Stout) Clark, the wife of David Ward Clark, were: Anthony Stout and Sarah (Royal) Stout. They settled in Green Co. Penn. where their daughter</div>
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1 – Hannah was born Thursday, December 27, 1810.</div>
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They moved to Ohio and the other three children were born there.</div>
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2 – Thomas married Elizabeth Williams</div>
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3 – Mary ” John McKinsy<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">[?]</em></div>
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4 – Matilda ” James Parish</div>
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Anthony Stout died in Middletown, Ohio when the children were small. Sarah Stout married Isaac Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span> July 7, 1821 in Miami Co. Ohio. Isaac Clark was a son of David and Sarah Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">4</span>, and he was an uncle of David Ward Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">6</span>, the husband of Hannah Stout.</div>
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I do not know the names of Anthony Stout’s father nor mother, nor of any of his brothers nor sisters, if there were any.</div>
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My mother told me he was a small man and that he was a Penn. dutchman. The family may have come from N.J. to Penn. as there were many there by the same name.</div>
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The following notes were prepared by me and given, in part, to the Historical Society at Springfield, Illinois.</div>
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My father left many notes in regard to the Royal family, which together with what was related to me by my mother, have been very helpful.</div>
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I have also corresponded with many of the descendants of Thomas Royal in several different states, which has enabled me to give fuller details than those which I learned from my parents.</div>
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A short sketch of him and some of his descendants may be found in a work entitled “A History of the Early Settlers of Sangamon County, 1836.”</div>
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Among the many correspondents was the Rev. Stanly <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">[sic]</em> O. Royal to whom I wrote many years ago, and sent him what I then had of the Royal family which he copied, and to which he added a great deal that I did not have at that time and returned it to me.</div>
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He was a District Superintendent of the M.E. Church in Ohio and a grandson of Rev. William Royal who crossed the plains from Illinois to Oregon in 1853.</div>
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He had intended to publish a book for the benefit of the descendants of Thomas Royal but he died April 13, 1914 before he had completed it, and his widow wrote me some years ago that he had not gone far enough with the book so that they could go on with it and she doubted if any of the family would ever do so.</div>
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The following may be of some interest to the descendants of Thomas Royal who was a soldier in the American Revolution.</div>
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There are doubtless many hundreds of them now living in the west and northwestern states and probably many of them live in the southern and eastern states as well.</div>
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The church records in England show that the parents of Thomas Royal were Thomas and Sarah Royal (then spelled Royle). They also show that Thomas was baptized March 27, 1752, and that at a very early date the name was spelled Ryle but gradually the spelling was changed to Royle.</div>
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Sometime after Thomas came to America, he spelled his name as Royal. Thomas and Sarah Royle, the parents of Thomas Royal, lived in England about half a mile from Cheadle and two miles from Stockport, Cheshire, and five miles from Manchester.</div>
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Thomas Royal had a sister, Elizabeth, born 1750. His other brothers and sisters were probably John, Ann, James, Charles, Mary, Sarah and Joseph but I have no record that any of them ever came to America but they may have done so later.</div>
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The Sangamon County Illinois History states that Thomas Royal came to America with a comrade about his own age near the beginning of the war for independence.</div>
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They both volunteered in the army of the Colonists and his comrade at his side had his head blown completely off.</div>
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About the same time Mr. Royal was severely wounded by a charge of buckshot entering his ankle, some of which he carried to his grave. So far as I know, that statement is correct, but I do not know who his superior officers were nor from what colony he enlisted.</div>
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After the war Mr. Royal married Miss Hannah Cooper in Philadelphia.</div>
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The following is a copy of his marriage certificate, the original some years ago being in the possession of Rev. T. R. Royal of Portland, Oregon and some of his descendants no doubt still have it.</div>
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“Philadelphia June 29, 1782</div>
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“These are to certify that on the 29th day of June in the year of Our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty-two, Thomas Royle and Hannah Cooper are joined together in Holy Matrimony.</div>
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John Kunse</div>
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Protestant Minister.”</div>
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The above shows that Thomas Royal was first married in Philadelphia, but he settled in Virginia where the children by his first wife were born.</div>
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Thomas Royal’s son, Rev. William Royal, died in Salem, Oregon, September 29, 1870. I have his obituary which states that he was born in Monongahela County, West Virginia.</div>
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There is a Monongahela River and also a Monongahela city in that part of the country, but I find no record of any county by that name.</div>
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There is, however, a Monongalia County in West Virginia, which no doubt is the county in which William was born and where his father lived until he moved to Ohio.</div>
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My mother was born in Green County, Pennsylvania which adjoins Monongalia County in West Virginia, which was formerly a part of Virginia.</div>
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Her mother was Sarah (Royal) Stout, a daughter of Thomas Royal, and she might have settled near her parents, and may have gone to Ohio about the same time he did.</div>
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The following are the names of the children and grandchildren of Thomas Royal and his first wife, Hannah Cooper, and also their consorts so far as they are known to me:</div>
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ROYAL</div>
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1 Elizabeth, born June 16, 1783, m. …Canfield</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Hannah, married …Worrell.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">b. Daniel</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">c. Mary, married …Robins and settled in California</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">d. Vincent, born 1814</li>
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Children of Elizabeth and her second husband …McDonald</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">John</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Phillip, settled in Princeston, Missouri</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Martha, m…Roe, settled in Urbanna<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">,</em> Ill.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thomas</li>
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2 James, born October 14, 1785</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Leonard</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Hiram</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Hannah</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Emily</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Joseph</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Martha</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Nancy</li>
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3 Mary, born June 8, 1787, m Absalom Meredith</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thomas – m.1 Priscilla Fields; m.2 Jane Basil</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Amy – m. William B. Lawley</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Davis – m. Mary Newcomer</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">William – Minister, U.B. Church to Fort …, Kan.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Sarah – m. James Dillon, to McLean Co. Ill.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Joseph – m.1 Susan Dillon; m2 Mary Adams</li>
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Absalom and Mary were married in Virginia, to Butler Co. O. then to Miami Co. O. then to Sangamon Co. Ill. where Absalom died in 1842. Mary died there in 1844. a, b, c, and d born in Butler Co. O. e, f born in Miami Co. O.</div>
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4 Samuel Cooper, born April 11, 1789. He was in the War of 1812. While in the army he became ill and his father brought him home where he died July 30, 1812, the same day that his half-sister, Rebecca, was born.</div>
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5 Thomas, born April 7, 1791 and settled near Middletown, Ohio.</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">John, born December 25, 1821, in Butler Co. Ohio. He married Jane Withrow who died July 23, 1904.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thomas R., m. Rebecca Chinoweth, went to Gueda Springs, Kan. and died there January 1, 1899.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">William of Dayton, Indiana.</li>
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There may be others.</div>
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6 Sarah, born March 3, 1793, died Fulton Co., August 4, 1846. Married</div>
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Anthony Stout, died Middletown, Ohio.</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Hannah, born December 27, 1810 in Green Co. Penn. Married David Ward Clark in Sangamon Co. Ill. July 7, 1831. D. W. Clark was born in Bourbon County, Ky. September 30, 1809 and died in Mt. Pulaski February -, 1892 and Hannah died there December 15, 1897.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thomas, born November 19, 1812, in Ohio. Married Elizabeth Williams</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Mary, born January 1, 1815. Married John McKinney and went to Wisconsin. She died January 14, 1894 at the home of her son, Thomas, Hoxie, Kansas.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Matilda, married James Parish. They had a family and lived in Athens, Ill.</li>
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Anthony Stout died at Middletown and Sarah went to Miami Co. Ohio and was there married to Isaac Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span>, May 7, 1821. Isaac Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span> was an uncle to D. W. Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">6</span>, the husband of Hannah Stout.</div>
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Children second husband of Sarah (Royal) Stout. Isaac Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span> and Sarah:</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Lydia Z, born February 16, 1822, m. George Snell</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">William R., born July 15, 1823, m<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1</span> Elsey Fitsgerald; m<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> Sarah Grigsby; m<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">3</span> Huldah McCumber. William had children by each wife. He died August 9, 1906.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Ezekiel, born May 4, 1825, m. Diantha Beckelhimer.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Margaret, born November 1, 1826, m. John Grigsby</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Amy, born about 1828, m. Pleasant Bryant. Went to Kansas.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">James, born February 14, 1830, m. Catherine Gay</li>
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All of the children of Isaac and Sarah Clark, except James, had a family and many of their descendants now live in Fulton Co. Ill.</div>
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B for born</div>
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M<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1 ” ” </span>1<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">st</span> time <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">[?]</em></div>
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7 William Royal, born February 24., 1796</div>
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m. Barbara Ebey September 8, 1818 in Doublin, Ohio</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thomas Fletcher, m. Mary Ann Stanley</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Charles W., m.<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1</span> Rachel Misner; m.<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> Sarah Cummings</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">George A., born 1825, died October 16, 1842</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">William Bramwell, m. Lizzie Hall</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">James H., born m. Carrie Hall</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Mary Elizabeth, m. Rev. John Flynn in Oregon</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Jason Lee, m. Anna Browning in Oregon</li>
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William Royal (above) and his family crossed the plains from Illinois to Oregon in 1853. He was a minister in the M.E. Church and would not travel on Sunday. Those with whom he traveled would leave him Sunday morning, but he would overtake the others during the week and arrived in Oregon with the rest of the company.</div>
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He and his family visited my father’s home for two days just before he started west. He and my father corresponded for some years. I still have some of their letters, one of which, written by my father, was taken to Ohio and sent to me from there. William Royal died in Salem, Oregon September 29, 1870. Many of his descendants live in Oregon and other states. There were many preachers and teachers among them.</div>
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8 Charles, born March 19, 1798</div>
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m. Polly Gearhart in Piqua, Ohio.</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Thomas Wesley, born January 24, 1823 in Piqua, Ohio.</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Sara</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Eliza</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">John</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">James</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Charles Fletcher</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">William</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Mary</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Lewis B.</li>
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9 Hannah, born February 26, 1801. M…Jarrett</div>
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A daughter, Mary married Aaron Hiner. Mary and Aaron went to McLean Co. Aaron died and Mary m …(?)</div>
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Thomas Royal was the grandfather of Hannah Stout Clark. See his 6th child. The above names appear on a bronze tablet at the south door of the court house at Springfield, Illinois.</div>
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Mrs. Hannah Cooper Royal died in Virginia and Thomas Royal married Miss Rebecca Matthews and moved to Franklin Co. Ohio.</div>
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10 Simon, born June 27, 1810, died in infancy.</div>
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11 Rebecca, born July 30, 1812, married Jacob Boyd</div>
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<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">John T., born 1835, married Sarah E. Clayton</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">William, born May 1, 1837, married Mary A. Vigal</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">George B., born December 25, 1839, married Hariet Williams</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Mary M., married Alonzo Sparks</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Susan, married Harvey Alexander</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">James 0, married Marietta Reed</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Sarah J, married Elijah D. Lawley</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Davis 0, married Sarah A. Campbell</li>
<li style="box-sizing: border-box;">Vincent C, died in his 18th year.</li>
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Mrs. Rebecca (Matthews) Royal died in Doublin, Franklin Co., Ohio and Thomas Royal married Mrs. Ellen Brunk; one child.</div>
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12 Joseph B., born November 1, 1816 in Franklin Co. Ohio. Joseph B. m<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">1</span> Louisa Downing; m<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> Mrs. Elsey McHendry. Joseph was a minister of the Christian Church and went to Vermont, Fulton Co. Ill.<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">2</span> and had a family there. I have pictures of his two boys, Oscar and Eddie.</div>
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Dates for a sketch are sometimes given from memory, after many years, and there are likely to be some errors.</div>
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The “Early Settlers of Sangamon County” states that Thomas Royal came from Franklin County, Ohio to Illinois in a company of sixty-three persons, arriving in the fall of 1824 and also that Christopher Newcomer came from that county to Illinois, arriving December 9, 1824. They probably came together.</div>
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It also states that Absalom Meredith came from Miami Co. 0. to Illinois arriving October 27, 1829 and that the company in which they came numbered sixty-three persons.</div>
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While it might be possible, yet it is not very probable, that just sixty-three persons came together from different counties in Ohio to Illinois in different years.</div>
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Thomas Royal was the father-in-law of Absalom Meredith, and this information may have been given by different descendants, and one of them may have erred in regard to the number of persons they were telling about.</div>
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My father’s uncle, Rev. David Clark,<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span> came from Miami Co. Ohio to Ill. in 1829 and my mother came from there at the same time and lived with her relatives until she and my father were married.</div>
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Absalom Meredith and Rev. David Clark may have come to Ill. together.</div>
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Rev. David Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span> was a brother of Isaac Clark<span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 13.5px; line-height: 0; position: relative; top: -0.5em; vertical-align: baseline;">5</span> who was the second husband of Sarah Royal Stout.</div>
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Thomas Royal died August, 1834; his widow died in September 1844., both in Sangamon Co. Ill. They were buried in the Geo. Brunk Cemetery several miles southeast of Springfield.</div>
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There is a stone at the grave which gives his birth date as 1758. That is not correct as the church records in England show he was baptized March 17, 1752. My mother told me he was a tall man.</div>
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In 1911 the D.A.R. unveiled, with appropriate exercises, a bronze tablet on which are inscribed the names of the twenty-four revolutionary soldiers who were buried in Sangamon Co., the name Thomas Royal being one of them. The tablet is near the south entrance of the County court house.</div>
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Hannah Cooper, the first wife of Thomas Royal, gave her son, William, an ancient family bible in which are some family records that are still legible.</div>
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It was handed down to his descendants until a few years ago when it was placed in the archives of the Oregon Historical Society in Portland, and I am informed by the Regent of the D.A.R. in that city that it is still there.</div>
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One of Hannah Cooper’s brothers was a silversmith. My mother had a teaspoon that he had made and on the handle of which was engraved the name “Cooper.” It was destroyed when my father’s home burned down January 15, 1888.</div>
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The descendants of Thomas Royal are a host now and could hardly be traced. I have the names of many of the later generations but probably all of them can trace their ancestral lineage back to some one of the names given above.</div>
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As before stated, I do not know whether or not any of Thomas Royal’s relatives ever came to America from England.</div>
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There is a family who spell their name as Royall, whose ancestors came from England many years before the revolution.</div>
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They are keeping in repair a mansion at Medford, Massachusetts which was built between 1637 and 1677 which at one time belonged to one of their ancestors.</div>
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If they were related to Thomas Royal it would be almost impossible to establish that fact.</div>
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Mt. Pulaski, Illinois</div>
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March, 1927</div>
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Robert D. Clark</div>
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<em style="box-sizing: border-box;">[This ends the elaboration. It is followed by 63 pages of tightly written genealogy. There are also notes in the margins.]</em></div>
<div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-9545564541766164192020-07-16T11:25:00.002-05:002020-07-16T11:25:55.431-05:00Lake Fork Predestinarian Baptist Church<p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;"><em style="box-sizing: border-box;">I originally placed a version of this on the <a href="https://logan.illinoisgenweb.org/lakeforkbaptists.htm" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #78909c;">Logan County ILGenWeb </a>site, of which I am the County Coordinator. It remains there. Since that time there have been many changes. I no longer know the location of one copy of the records. The one I know of is too fragile to scan further. I understand the <a href="http://www.pblib.org/pbl.html" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #78909c;">Primitive Baptist Library</a> in Carthage, Illinois, has an old photocopy of one set. I am posting the information here using the theory that the more places it is posted the more likely the records will survive.</em></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The Lake Fork Church of the Predestinarian Baptists was the first organized religion in south Logan County and perhaps in Logan County itself. Amazingly, two copies of the contemporaneous records of this denomination have survived. They appear to be identical and are in extremely fragile condition. Many years ago the late Dalen Shellhammer, a genealogist in this area for more than 50 years, read one copy and made some notes. I read pages of the other copy and made additional notes, including some history and genealogy related to the group and its members.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The Lake Fork Church of the Predestinarian Baptists, a strict, fundamentalist group, was organized January 20, 1827, at the house of James Turley by William Kenner, Hiram Bowman and Phillip Stephens. Hiram Bowman was chosen as moderator and James Turley as Clerk. James Turley and his wife were the first white settlers in south Logan County, arriving from Kentucky and locating in section 30 of what is now Mt. Pulaski Township.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The seven original members of the Lake Fork Church of the Predestinarian Baptists were: James L. Turley, Charles Barney, James Scot (sic), Carter Scroggin, Agness Turley, Margaret P. Turley and Phebe Scroggin.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Meanwhile, in Greene County, Ohio, the Regular Baptist Church of Indian Run, for reasons unclear, decided to migrate en masse to Illinois. Most of those who did not migrate in the first wave came within a couple years. The original members of that church were: (men) Abraham Lucas, Michael Mann, Philip Stevens, Solomon Wood, Lewis Chance, John Turner, Ebenezer Perry, James William Wilson, Peter P. Lucas, Joseph Lucas, Thomas Lucas, Samuel Nives, and William Copeland; (women) Sarah Copeland, Elizabeth Chance, Massy/Marcy Kelsey Lucas [wife of Abraham], Sarah Price Lucas [wife of Joseph], Rachel Perry, Mary Lee, Elizabeth Mann, Margaret Smith, Mary Lucas Turner, Sarah Hoblit Lucas [wife of Thomas], Sarah Lucas Copeland, Phebe Lucas Wood, and Elizabeth Stanberry. Most of them ended up in south Logan County and became part of the Lake Fork Predestinarian Baptist Church, soon to become the Regular Baptist Church of Lake Fork (1833).</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Religious services were held at the home of James Turley until March 1828 when the home of Boston Finders was purchased. This served as the meeting house until June 1831 when, according to the minutes, Brother Collins and Turner were appointed to choose a spot for a new church building. “Selected a spot on William Copeland’s land at or near a spring and Brother Copeland agrees to give one acre of land to bild (sic) said meeting house on and to make a deed to the same.” The trustees were authorized to sell the old meeting house and “convert the money toward bilding (sic) a new meeting house” (November 1831) [Several researchers believe this spot was north of the Lake Fork ditch a little over a mile south of Steenbergen Cemetery on the east side of the road. Nothing remains.]</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">In 1836 William Copeland was made Clerk and Michael Mann, Moderator. The meetings were held on Saturday, before the first Sunday each month. Many families would come great distances, bringing baskets of food and prepared to stay over night. Michael Mann and Stephen Hukill both preached, as a rule.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">In April of 1841 John Turner succeeded Robert Burns, who later joined the church at Buffalo Hart, as trustee. John R. Burns, who also transferred to the Buffalo Hart church, served as Clerk of the Lake Fork church, succeeding William Copeland in April 1856.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The discomforts caused by cold weather were apparent in the church minutes when in 1856 and 1857 they voted to hold their meetings in Copeland Schoolhouse. In February of 1857 the minutes show that $618.00 was “in the hands of the building committee” and the church instructed the committee “to go on and enclose the house with windows and doors and the church will be responsible for what is lacking.” This apparently solved their problem as the winter of 1857 they used the “old meeting house as usual.”</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">July 12, 1859 – James Cheatham was appointed deacon to replace late Carter Scroggin<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />August 1860 – A. L. Clayton replaced Stephen Hukill as trustee<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />April 1862 – James Cheatham replaced J. L. Mann as Clerk<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />May 31, 1866 – Michael Mann, pastor for 30 years, died</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">In July 1868 the members voted to move the building from “where it now stands to a place near Brother J. L. Mann’s residence.” J. L. Mann and G. N. Simpson were to be superintendents of the moving. In Nov 1869 they voted to “fense house known as Lake Fork Baptist meeting house with a good plank fense”. The moving committee was discharged and the deed received for the land from J. L. Mann and his wife.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Brothers and Sisters from Buffalo Hart Grove who requested letters of dismissal to form their own church (December 1871) were: Robert and Patsy Burns, John and Lucy Burns, Benjamin and Ellen Luckett, W. A. and Emily Burns and James Elder.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The records for the Lake Fork Baptist Church end in August 1894. There was no mention of the church closing but it is believed that the church closed its doors about this time. No one has located any pictures of any of the church buildings.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">To view the scanned records click on the links in the Logan County ILGenWeb article. The scans were done by Pamela Erlenbush, a triple descendant of Abraham Lucas.</p><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-73285180540356857262020-07-16T11:18:00.001-05:002020-07-16T11:26:36.586-05:00The Mystery of Berryman B. Woods Becomes Less Mysterious<p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The <a href="http://genealogysleuth.blogspot.com/2009/02/mystery-of-berryman-b-wood.html">mystery of Berryman B. Wood</a> has become less mysterious thanks to a discovery by his descendant Tessa Rasnick. One of the big mysteries has been when did Berryman B. Wood die?</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">When he died no marker was set. Perhaps they couldn’t afford one. They buried him by his wife, Sarah Catherine Lucas Wood, and she had a stone. Perhaps they meant to add his name. Whatever, it never happened.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">At some point, Wilford Ryan, a grandson, poured a concrete stone and, using a stick, wrote his name and date of death. Various cemetery walkers have said the now worn stone said 1911 and 1914.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">No death certificate has ever been found. They weren’t mandatory in Illinois until 1916.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Someone pointed me to a note that indicated he died February 8, 1908. There was no source but I liked it because it fit my theory that if one was born or died in the winter there was less likely to be a record prior to 1916. (Yes, I know of many exceptions to my theory.)</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Tessa was hunting for obits in old newspapers when she looked up John Allen Wood, a son of Berryman. John Allen is her third great uncle. This is what she found in <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">The Decatur Herald</em> for May 20, 1909.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">“John Allen Wood Dies<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />“John Allen Wood, living eight miles southwest of Mt. Pulaski, died at his home at 9:30 o’clock Tuesday night from heart trouble, having been a sufferer for many months. He was born south of Mt. Pulaski, and was the son of the late Berryman Wood. His age was 43 years, 11 months and 30 days. Mr. Wood married Isabelle Jones, daughter of Mrs. M. M. Howard, of this city, July 10, 1890, and he is survived by his wife and three children, Emery, Herman and Stella, also five sisters and four brothers. Funeral services will be held at the Copeland church, six miles southwest of Mt. Pulaski, at 11 o’clock, Friday morning conducted by Rev. Gilbert Jones, pastor of the Christian church of Mt. Pulaski. The remain (sic) will be buried in Mt. Pulaski cemetery.”</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">“Son of the <strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">late</strong> Berryman Wood.” (emphasis added) That pretty much eliminates 1911 and 1914 as death dates. It also explains why he cannot be found in the 1910 census.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">We still don’t know for sure exactly when he died but the 1908 date looks a lot more likely.</p><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-44653258114254442782020-07-16T11:10:00.001-05:002020-07-16T11:10:21.243-05:00Who Is Buried in Humphrey Scroggins' Grave?<p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="639" data-original-width="920" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjQcYIMIB2TOB_gH6FifT2K-M8vNhUxxp1f-S3fBEXHcq4SXGNyxx8nwgUCrHdM-MhjL6J3efybmyodyQcTo5gmRMe5EP1M31tXWb1NUcCEtyBXzdVACx434ByPTPah6AQ0zboG2A/s320/Scroggin+Humphrey+and+Sarah+stone+and+markers.jpg" width="320" /></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">This is a photo of the marker on the grave of one Humphrey Scroggin in Steenbergen Cemetery, Mt. Pulaski Township, Logan County, Illinois. But does it mark the grave of Humphry Scroggin, Revolutionary War veteran?</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Humphrey Scroggin, the RW veteran, was born about 1763 in Culpepper County, Virginia. According to his pension application, he was drafted twice to serve out of Henry County, Virginia. After the war he bought land in District 96, South Carolina, in 1784, is found in Warren County, Kentucky, in the 1800 census and in 1814 bought land in Gallatin County, Illinois. Before 1830 he was in Sangamon County, Illinois, which became Logan County in 1839. He died there in July 1845. But where was he buried?</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Several genealogists have suggested that the stone in Steenbergen does not mark the grave of the veteran and that this Humphrey Scroggin was in fact buried at Carlyle Cemetery. One of those was the late Dalen Shellhammer who, with his genealogist wife Sandra, managed Steenbergen Cemetery for years and oversaw the restoration of the Scroggin stone. They had heard or found enough to question but were unable to pursue an investigation at that point.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">In the southeast part of what is now Logan County, there were five Revolutionary War veterans living in 1835: John Downing (1838), Abraham Lucas (1841), William Patterson (1840), Humphrey Scroggin (1845) and James Turley (1836). The date after their name indicates the year of death. They all died within a 10 year span.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">In 1917 and subsequently, the DAR published a list of RW veterans buried in Illinois. They didn’t know about all of them. Of the above group they only knew about Scroggin and Turley. Turley is listed as buried in Carlyle Cemetery which was then known as Turley. Scroggin is listed as buried “near Mt. Pulaski.” Both Carlyle and Steenbergen are “near Mt. Pulaski.” In fact, they are only a few miles apart.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Stones exist for Downing (Bowers Templeman), Lucas (Steenbergen) and Patterson (Downing). There is no stone for Turley or Scroggin at Carlyle. Stones exist from the period.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">The Scroggin stone at Steenbergen is very near the stone for Lucas. There is also an existing stone for Lucas’ wife. There is no stone for Scroggin’s wife although there have been some DAR markers added.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Who is the candidate for burial if not the RW veteran? Humphrey Scroggin did not have a son named Humphrey but he did have a grandson named Humphrey. Grandson Humphrey died in 1859, not so much after his grandfather. His wife Sarah Lucas survived him by more that 40 years, remarried and is buried in Macon County with her second husband. Sarah was the granddaughter of Abraham Lucas, buried oh so close to the Scroggin marker, and the daughter of James Lucas (1827) and Hannah Bowman Lucas (1843). James Lucas’ stone is gone but Hannah’s remains, also right there near the Scroggin stone. No other stone is known for the grandson.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Makes you go hmmm.</p><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-63230019406855193222020-07-16T11:04:00.001-05:002020-07-16T11:27:00.335-05:00A Clue in Samuel Downing's Bible<p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Samuel Downing was born in Maryland. The family soon moved west. At the age of 18 he served with the Ohio Militia in the War of 1812. In 1818 he married Margaret Matthews in Pike County, Ohio. After her death he married her widowed sister Mary Matthews Day.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Margaret and Mary were daughters of John Matthews, said to be a surveyor. The name of their mother is unknown. The only surviving Matthews child in 1880, William, said on the census that year his father was born in Ireland and his mother was born Pennsylvania.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Samuel Downing kept a record of the family in his Bible. The Bible, definitely a Protestant Bible, was printed in Dublin, Ireland, in 1781. Samuel kept his family records, except his own birth and death, and the Matthews family records in the Bible. The writing appears to be the same hand until Samuel’s death.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">In the Bible is this mysterious listing: “Thomas Matthews Deceased January the 17th in the yeare of our lord 1833” and “And Sarah Matthews his Wife Died May the 15th in the yeare of our Lord 1840.”</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">There is no missing Thomas Matthews. Thomas, brother of Margaret and Mary, died in 1875, and he left a will. The probate documents state he died February 11, 1875, leaving “no widow, nor children, father or mother, but heirs John Mathews, heirs Margaret Downing, heirs Mary Downing, heirs Jane Lawrence and William Mathews.” Those are the Matthews children. The will indicates he was mute. (Matthews is spelled different ways in different places. Samuel Downing was consistent with Matthews.)</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">There is no hard information as to the name of the Matthews father. It has always been said his name was John but I find no proof. It is possible it was assumed from the naming pattern of the children.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Samuel and Margaret named their children: George (Samuel’s father), Sarah, Elizabeth (Samuel’s mother), Thomas, Mary Jane (Jane was the name of one of George’s sisters and one of Margaret’s sisters, Margaret also had a sister Mary) and Samuel.</p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #424242; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px 0px 1.5em; text-align: justify;">Maybe the name of the parents of the Matthews children was never a mystery. Maybe Samuel told us their names: Thomas and Sarah.</p><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0United States37.09024 -95.7128918.780006163821156 -130.869141 65.400473836178847 -60.556641tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-85834005003436370812014-03-19T16:28:00.000-05:002014-03-19T16:28:42.593-05:00So Many Children He Had To Marry and Marry and Marry<h2 class="entry-title" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; clear: both; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, 'Nimbus Sans L', sans-serif; font-size: 21px; line-height: 1.3em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">
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Thomas Lucas didn’t live in a shoe but he had a lot of children, 16 in fact, possibly 17.</div>
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He was born April 27, 1814, in Liberty Township, Clinton County, Ohio, to James Lucas and Hannah Bowman. He came to central Illinois with the rest of the Abraham Lucas clan – Abraham was his grandfather – and members of their Baptist Church from Greene County, Ohio, in the later 1820s. Within a short time after their arrival, James Lucas died. John Lucas and John Turner, uncles, were named guardians of Thomas, age 13. John Lucas was married Hannah Bowman’s sister Mary. John Turner was married to James Lucas’ sister Sarah.</div>
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On June 10, 1834, Thomas married one of John and Sarah Bowman Turner’s granddaughters, Mary Turner, a sister of the infamous Spencer Turner. Thomas and Sarah had 10 children. There is a long-held story that their first daughter was named Minerva. She apparently was born before they were married and she died. I have found no evidence of this child. Mary Turner Lucas died on October 4, 1855, leaving seven living children. Two months later their two oldest daughters married. Thomas was left with an adult son, a not so healthy teenage son who did not survive his mother long, a 9 year old son and two young daughters.</div>
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On May 1, 1856, less than seven months after the death of his wife, Thomas Lucas married Harriet Gambrel, widow of John Lanham. She was 38 and had no children of her own. However, she added two daughters to the Thomas Lucas family before she died on January 5, 1867. By then there were two of Mary’s daughters and two of Harriet’s daughters at home but one of Mary’s daughters married in April of that year. Thomas was down to three minor children.</div>
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On July 10, 1867, six months after the death of his second wife and on the 33rd anniversary of his first marriage, Thomas Lucas married Charlotte Bowman, the widow of Jacob East and a relative of Thomas’ mother. She was also the sister of the soon to be husband of her new stepdaughter Arminda Lucas. Probably it was Thomas’ marriage to Charlotte that introduced the young couple.</div>
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We know Charlotte had three children by her first marriage but not what happened to them. It does not appear they survived infancy. Thomas had three children at home and soon he and Charlotte had more, four more to be exact. Thomas’ last child was born posthumously and only lived about six weeks.</div>
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Thomas Lucas died August 18, 1874. Both of Harriet’s daughters were at home although one married within months. (Parent dies, child marries. Seems to be a pattern.)</div>
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Thomas Lucas was buried at Lake Bank Cemetery with two of his wives, several children and, later, other children and grandchildren.</div>
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Letters of Administration issued to Allen Lucas, eldest son, on August 22, 1874, same date as his Petition. The estate contained 918 acres of land. The widow received $234.88. The surviving children or their heirs each received $46.97.</div>
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Sometime after 1880 Charlotte and her surviving children moved to Oxford, Kansas, where there were other Lucases and Bowmans as well as others who had left central Illinois for the promise of land in Kansas. She did not remarry but is not buried in Lake Bank.</div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Originally, John got a Revolutionary War marker based upon his service in the company of Capt. James Scott, 3rd Battalion, Washington County Militia, Pennsylvania. He was a private 5th Class and can be found listed in the Pennsylvania Archives. DAR agreed. Later John and his extended family and friends traveled to Ohio and on to Sangamon now Logan County, Illinois. They even brought along James Scott. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Then it was determined that was not the right service for this John Downing. Nope. His service was in Capt. Timothy Downing's Company, Washington County, Pennsylvania, militia. At least the location was correct. And probably the two Johns are related. A new marker was added to the old on at Bowers Templeman Cemetery just north of Salt Creek. The DAR participated in the ceremonies. That was 1977. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Then the DAR decided that wasn't correct either. And the timing really was off. After the war John moved back east in Pennsylvania instead of continuing on west? That could not be explained. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Recently, DNA testing allowed Mary Lou Cole of Pennsylvania to follow a theory. John Downing didn't serve in Washington County, Pennsylvania, but Washington County, <b>Maryland</b>. Mary Lou is not a descendant of this particular Downing line but she was determined. There were naysayers, including me. She continued on.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">On September 5, 2013, the DAR notified Mary Lou that they agree with her conclusions (and documentation of course) and John Downing is now officially recognized as having his Revolutionary War service in Maryland.</span></div>
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<div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-22948493616498704942013-08-06T14:24:00.001-05:002013-08-06T14:24:39.922-05:00FamilySearch is Looking Better<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">I haven't had a lot luck finding my relatives on <i>Ancestry.com</i>. My six month trial is about up and I'm debating on whether to go another six months. I particularly hate searching for "John C. Brown, born 1830 Illinois, married 1850 Illinois, died 1890 Illinois," and being presented with choices of people who lived and died in other states and other countries, World War I draft registrations, 1940 census results and so on.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Today I searched from my genealogy program (Legacy) to <i>FamilySearch.org</i>. I was not expecting much. However, they seem to have improved their search. The results were a lot more relevant than those I've gotten from Ancestry. I found some census images (specifically 1850) which were sharper than those I had saved from Ancestry. I don't know how widespread the better images are but I plan to check.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Fortunately FamilySearch is able to use logic in the searches. Volunteers transcribe documents and those transcriptions show up in the search. The volunteers are working with old images and rotten handwriting in some cases. Some of the transcriptions are quite accurate. Some of the transcriptions are hysterical, so obviously incorrect it is pathetic. It reminds me of some of the 1940 census arbitrators' "wisdom." But FamilySearch finds that and that's what counts.</span><div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0Logan County, IL, USA40.034975075009825 -89.313354492187539.986354075009828 -89.3940354921875 40.083596075009822 -89.2326734921875tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-54615237268099804322013-05-29T10:24:00.001-05:002013-05-29T10:24:39.973-05:00Genealogist vs. Family Historian<h2 class="entry-title" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; clear: both; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, 'Nimbus Sans L', sans-serif; font-size: 21px; line-height: 1.3em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">
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Family Historian seems to be a title for those who collect all sorts of things that a family member once touched or might have touched or probably would have touched had it been placed in their hand. In other cases it is the process of collecting family stories.</div>
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Everyone, I hope, had one or two or three cherished items from ancestors. But 300?</div>
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People collect family stories to preserve them. It turns out that collecting family stories is also perceived as a way to draw young people into genealogy.</div>
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There are plenty of family stories. But, and here’s the rub, how many of your family stories are true? Three brothers came to America… My ancestress was an Indian Princess… You get the idea.</div>
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Genealogists deal in facts. Ok, not a lot of those whose family trees bloat Ancestry.com, but serious genealogists are into facts and proof. They want evidence. Heck, they want you to prove you were born and didn’t just appear full grown. (Superman is in big trouble.)</div>
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Isn’t being a “Family Historian” contradictory to being a “Genealogist”? What do you think?</div>
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I am amused by all the "hints" which lead to other family trees. Those trees have misinformation, creative information and no sources. They obviously copy from one another because the same errors are repeated over and over again.<br />
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I am not so amused to find they have stolen and used as their own my personal family pictures. In a couple lines the number of descendants is extremely limited. I don't know the authors of those trees. They are clearly not descendants of the people in the photos. There is no way they would be the owners of the photos. Some still have my date stamp or other identifying marks on them. They have been stolen from places such as these blog posts, my web sites, ILGenWeb and FindAGrave.<br />
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I think the thing that upsets me most is having my family photos attached to the junk family trees.<br />
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Someone suggested I complain to Ancestry. Have you seen the process? Do you really think Ancestry cares?<br />
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Is this the price we pay for sharing information?<div class="blogger-post-footer"><hr /> <a href="http://www.genealogysleuth.blogspot.com">Ancestor Hunting</a></div>GenealogySleuthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03705616773781389391noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31042554.post-32356733798798402392012-10-02T13:58:00.000-05:002012-10-02T13:58:23.931-05:00FindMyPast<br />
When I first saw FindMyPast I was particularly struck by the maps which show you the person's location on that census. I could see many uses for that. And the census maps in FindMyPast would be useful -- IF they were dependably accurate. But they aren't. And there are too many I know aren't to trust those I don't know.<br />
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Robert Downing arrived in Illinois and settled along Salt Creek in the center of the state in 1821. I know what land he bought and where it is. It hasn't moved since.<br />
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In the 1830 Census for SANGAMON County, Illinois, I found Robert Downing. There he is on a page with the folks that were his neighbors at the time, many of whom, or their descendants, would continue as his neighbors the rest of his life. With the transcription is the map of his location. He is found somewhere north of the Decatur airport. Decatur is in Macon County, Illinois.<br />
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From the 1840 census for Mt. Pulaski Precinct, LOGAN County, Illinois, I find Robert Downing. He didn't move. In 1839 Logan was created from Sangamon. The transcript is correct. I know it is the right person, right neighbors, etc. Yet according to the map he is now northeast of Paris in EDGAR County, Illinois, just west of the Illinois-Indiana border. In 1850 he is in the same location in Edgar County. When I began to look for the 1860 census for him FindMyPast crashed.<br />
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In 1870 Robert is still farming but he is doing so from a house in the town of Mt. Pulaski according to the map. The census sheet show his neighbors, all those farmers. Amazing that they all moved to town together isn't it? In 1880 Robert, now a man of 86, retired farmer, living with his wife, son, daughter in law and grandchildren, is again located in the town of Mt. Pulaski according to the map. Unfortunately the actual census page shows his neighbors to be people living on farms. At this point it crashed again. It seems to do that a lot.<br />
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FindMyPast also has the Social Security Death Index. The searches I did returned what I expected. You can get the SSDI free at FamilySearch.org though.<br />
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